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SSkyvington
Jun 29 2018
at 9:01 PM
I’ve read somewhere that Pat has something like 10 releases in the can, but three years have passed since his last recording without him putting anything new out. Just wondering if a new release or multiple releases are coming sometime in 2018. Would especially like to hear how he sounds with his latest group. Cheers.
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richardguitar
Nov 05 2018
at 5:51 PM
Bookmark and Share #molesoulsandal: Well sorry, I don´t think you have understood what this is all about at all...that you have something valid to say is the basic requirement met by any good musician in the first place. Its not about that music getting a chance to be heard, its about all the COSTS and WORK involved recording it in the first place, so you CAN theoretically through it up in the air...but why would you keep on producing without at least a minimal fair chance to recoup your investment in both hard work and money?? To make it simple for you, I´d suggest you check out John Mclaughlins State of the musical Arts, then it may be easier for you to understand what the problem is: www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqp7ECKUl0
molesoulsandal
Oct 31 2018
at 2:52 PM
Bookmark and Share richardguitar: take it easy, my man . . . all of this IS ’stoopid’ because, as pat himself said decades ago, if you’ve got ’something to say’, and it’s valid, then there’s a good chance that it WILL be heard . . . . there’s all kinds of ways to get your recorded music ’out there’ . . . . i am rock solid certain that pat has oodles of good reasons for why he hasn’t released anything for a while . . . . besides, and like i said before, these artists are not obligated to produce ANYTHING, EVER . . . . . these ’records’ are gifts . . . . . . . and, again, i think that most of us floating around out here have not 100percent digested ALL of the voluminous amount of recorded music that pat, and others, have offered up so far! so there, mate!
franksexton
Oct 31 2018
at 10:48 AM
Bookmark and Share as far as Pat’s net worth he is well off, I don’t he has ever been motivated by that. He just doesn’t want to put out junk. I wonder if he was affected by the criticism he received over Zero Tolerance for Silence .
richardguitar
Oct 30 2018
at 11:17 AM
Bookmark and Share #molesoulsandal Well, if it is all that "stoopid", why don´t you make the change and step forward by donating the costs to produce a CD of say g.e. 8000,- to any great musician of your choice, so she/he can write the compositions, pay the musicians, pay the studio, pay to physically press the CD or vinyl, as well as some promotion, and then throw it up in the air, to see were it all falls?? My educated guess is that: 1) you don´t work for free yourself (unless you are extremely wealthy) and 2) there may be some room left for serious consideration of what you are actually promoting... Chances are, that the results of the devaluation and thus diminishing production of meaningful well recorded music will only be felt in a while by enough listeners, so that a change of thinking may occur...just think about, why Pat hasn´t released any new music in a while, there is an answer.-
franksexton
Oct 18 2018
at 12:51 PM
Bookmark and Share i’m with you , thirdwind. When he put together the Unity band I thought it would be great for them to redo the stuff he did with Micheal Brecker. Turns the new stuff he wrote for that was way better. There is an already recorded but not yet released album with new songs coming, if you believe the interview with him I read sometime ago.
thirdwind
Oct 18 2018
at 2:05 AM
Bookmark and Share I thoroughly enjoyed tonight’s oldies jam in Denver. Can’’t ever get enough of the old tunes, and Pat’s very experimental with them now. Pat the Guitarist is still in his prime. But what we’re missing though these four long years since an album of new material is any contact with Pat the Composer. That’s his highest skill, IMHO. He’s a great guitarist at every level, but there are others. And some of my favorite songs had minimal or no actual guitar playing- for example, First Circle, The Awakening, and the orchestral passages of Secret Story. Then there’s the intricate counterpoint of the Orchestrion songs. Who else brings us these miracles? New compositions. New concepts. That’s what were missing without new albums.
franksexton
Oct 15 2018
at 10:28 AM
Bookmark and Share i read in an interview that the band he is touring now actually recorded an album of all new songs but he has been so busy touring he hasn’t had the time to finish it. hope its sooner rather than later. wouldn’t a duet album with Ron Cater be great also ?
naut
Oct 11 2018
at 8:45 AM
Bookmark and Share The mole’s on a roll. You go, bro!
molesoulsandal
Oct 10 2018
at 2:59 PM
Bookmark and Share i think it’s just all so much fluff, not to mention a little stoopid . . . . . why not just put out record albums because you love it and it represents a ’history’, a ’record’, if you will, of your musical growth over time? why not do that? - just like it’s always been . . . . as opposed to it being some manner of ’business venture’ . . . . . . this whole thing got blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion as far back as the late 60s & early 70s, after everybody wanted to have the same, what they thought was, ’financial success’ as the beatles/stones, etc. . . . . . little did they know that the fabs dint make all that much $$$ anyway - not compared to such sludge debris as madonna, beiber, and cardi B . . . . . . . . at any rate, any professional musician will tell you that, down thru the ages, you don’t ’make your money’ off your record albums - you ’pay the rent’ by touring and playing live gigs . . . . it has always been thattaway, and it always will be . . . . . so, i say, that if ya ’got something to say’, make a record and shoot it out into the social skyway, and let the chips, and the dollars & cents, fall where they may.
marshall
Oct 08 2018
at 12:05 PM
Bookmark and Share Streaming services and albums aren’t mutually exclusive though. I stream almost all of my music, but it’s stored as albums in the cloud. If I want to listen to The Way Up, I’ll stream The Way Up. What’s the deal here?
richardguitar
Oct 02 2018
at 9:07 AM
Bookmark and Share Scary development indeed, as much as the availability of so much music almost for free seems to be great on the surface, the drawbacks for the recording musicians are only too obvious. I currently find it hard to find a way around the hesitation to produce and release new stuff, although writing new stuff and getting it out to the listeners is my core mission in life...stopping really goes totally against the fascination of new music coming up in ones creative system, calling for to be brought into daylight as a new composition...well, at least we can play it live, but the listeners will have to live just with the memory of that performance...like in the days before recorded music. Maybe if those effects are felt on a big enough scale, the effective change fot the better may have a chance...till then its music survival time...;-)
BobSmith1
Oct 01 2018
at 12:20 PM
Bookmark and Share I was reading a few days ago that streaming services such as Spotify, Tidal, etc., now account for around 75percent of all music sales now. 75percent! CD’s 10percent, digital downloads 10percent, vinyl a few percent and the remaining percent all the other stuff, paid radio, etc. Really a changed world and I imagine that Pat is thankful that the heyday of his early work, by far, happened in the old era.
richardguitar
Oct 01 2018
at 11:36 AM
Bookmark and Share Being a guitarist, composer as well label owner myself, I can totally sympathize with the reluctance of releasing a new CD these days, since just sinking away in the streaming desert is a total disaster for any musician bringing about the work with all it entails for free - it is plain disrespect and theft by those major companies, who make plenty of cash via adsales on the back of creative people all over the world. A true motivation killer, until CDs or downloads in some sort of way at least theoretically allow for an artist to have a fair chance to recoup his costs and efforts. Artist Share is great, but who really wants to go "begging", beyond and on top of all the work to produce and release a CD, no matter how one burns for the music? It is just frustrating and very hard to move on despite all these developments- sure, playing live is great, but where will we culturally be in 10 years?
kejur
Sep 22 2018
at 6:25 PM
Bookmark and Share https://www.sheltonherald.com/116263/pat-metheny-finds-inspiration-inside-music/ AV: Is a new album in the works? PM: Like many musicians, I am trying to figure out exactly what the future of recorded music is as the music business changes. At the moment I have five completed albums that I have not put out yet as I am waiting to see where things are going. All of them are very different and I look forward to a time I can release them in a great way for people to enjoy.
naut
Sep 08 2018
at 6:31 PM
Bookmark and Share Well put, mole. Of course, I don’t really know what’s going on with Pat and the future of his releases, but I will say this: It can be rather difficult to feel hopeful or creative in this period of political upheaval and foolish, ignorant, childish leadership. Some artists may claim that this kind of distress bolsters creativity, which may be true for some. In all likelihood Pat is well above the fray of politics, as he often looks to the future in his talks, and his music is certainly timeless and his catalogue one for the ages. So thanks for your thoughtful comments, Mr. Sandal.
molesoulsandal
Sep 07 2018
at 2:38 PM
Bookmark and Share maybe just listen to the albums that have already been released to the public up to this point . . . . . . . myriad listenings of any of them couldn’t even begin to reveal every single treasure that lies within, as am sure you know . . . . . . . . . i think in one way, pat, and many other such prolific artists, have already ’put out enough records’ . . . . . . i respectfully and humbly do not believe that record albums are something that these folks are ’obligated’ to produce . . . . i see them as ’gifts’, and do not think we would have the ’right’ to ask for them . . . . . we all want to hear ’new recorded stuff’ from pat, and others, but until i’ve completely & 100percent digested all of the previous stuff, i guess that i’ll just have to ’lump it’ - haha!! (and i’ve been listening intensely/devotedly to PM since 1976!!)
mkitahara
Sep 07 2018
at 2:32 AM
Bookmark and Share Perhaps Pat doesn’t recognize the magnitude of his legacy. This guy’s music has been an integral part of my life. I’ve had the great fortune of traveling all over the world and his songs remind me of so many places, moods, textures, events, seasons and on and on. It’s the bulk of what I always listen to. Just as sports superstars want to win championships, Pat’s legacy should be to produce the finest works he can with the time he has left. Touring is great, but make up on a very small percentage of his fans, who can’t afford or are geographically incapable of seeing him live.
kejur
Sep 03 2018
at 6:45 PM
Bookmark and Share I think he’s just really enjoying touring right now. I’m hoping that there will be at least 2-3 releases from Pat before the end of 2018.
Oystein
Aug 15 2018
at 9:17 AM
Bookmark and Share From my little corner of the world, it can be frustrating to only be able to experience new stuff from my favourite artist in live shows. He doesn`t visit Norway that often, and for me there is a whole lot of time and money involved in a trip to the US...:-) So, a brand new, shortly-to-be-released, group album would be just fine, thank you!
MarcNebo
Aug 14 2018
at 10:21 AM
Bookmark and Share Stand by for news. Trust me.
thirdwind
Aug 07 2018
at 4:06 PM
Bookmark and Share That’s disturbing. To think that one of the most successful and acclaimed musicians of our time has new work sitting on the shelf because of business reasons... that’s a great failure of the marketplace, and an aesthetic tragedy. I know that album sales are suffering, but other artists are still releasing them. Bill Frisell, for instance, has put out four albums in his own name since 2014, plus many side gigs. Every unknown artist I hear tries to sell me their latest CD. So this is hard to understand. Pat’s made great records in a few hours’ studio time (on ECM), and he’s made costly, ambitious projects (like Orchestrion). Some way or another, it seems like he could put out a record if he wanted to. I’d surely buy it! Maria Schneider, a composer and bandleader who I place on the same high shelf as PM, had many delays in getting new work released. Now she’s with ArtistShare, a subscription model that gives access to rehearsals and other bonus material that give fans a look at the work at it evolves. I’d be delighted to buy into that kind of arrangement supporting Metheny’s music. I’m sure he’s had a chance to consider that, too, so I remain befuddled and disappointed by this long hiatus.
kejur
Aug 05 2018
at 4:38 AM
Bookmark and Share From a recent interview in the Berkshire Eagle: Q. What projects are you working on currently? New album coming out soon? A. I have several really exciting records done at the moment and, like many musicians, am wrestling with the realities of what recordings mean in today’s world. Touring and playing gigs has always been the primary destination for me. As an improvising musician, it is what you can get to night to night that is the actual final "product" of your efforts. Early on, I think I thought the records were more like an ad to get people to come to the gig. But I really appreciate now that they turn out to be much more than that. But nevertheless, I am already pretty well acclimated to the way things are set up now in the "new" music business where it is really mostly only about live performance anymore. That is basically the way I have always approached it anyway.
molesoulsandal
Jul 12 2018
at 7:39 AM
Bookmark and Share naut - that’s exactly why that i frequently use the ’ha’ bit . . . . i didn’t used to, but people would often not ’get it’ when i was doing tongue-in-cheek, or whatever, and so in order not to have any confusion, nor the oh-so-dreaded ’misunderstanding’ with the ones who ’don’t listen well’, i have resorted to using the ’ha’, and all that . . . . i’d rather not, because my mother used to use ’ha’ ALL THE TIME when she would write me letters, and i always kind of didn’t dig it, but i’d rather do that than having recipients of my info think that i was being serious when i was just joking around . . . . . btw, i thought what you wrote was hilarious, especially the ’wes-wannabe’ thingie, and i’ll bet pat would chuckle at it, too! . . . . . . . let’s hear it for ’elevated humor’!!!
thirdwind
Jul 10 2018
at 11:45 AM
Bookmark and Share I was just now pondering this question on another forum. It’s been four years since the last all-new Unity Band album came. That debut concert for his composition with the L.A Guitar Quartet was almost two years ago, and it’s still not available, I don’t think. Not that Pat owes anything more, but I’d certainly like to hear more. He’s my favorite composer, after all. At this rate, I won’t live to hear those ten albums! This kind of dry spell has no precedent in his long career, and I can hardly even speculate why. The last US Unity Group tour, almost two years ago, had two or three new songs (and at least one new wild, intense guitar sound), but without recordings to back them up, even Pat’s robust melodies don’t sink in. If you’ve seen the PMUG lately, how much new material was played?
naut
Jul 09 2018
at 3:59 PM
Bookmark and Share Ah, come on, folks. Who wants another mediocre album from a washed-up, has-been Wes-wannabe who’s only been toodling along for the past forty years, barely getting by artistically and musically? ME! That’s who! (Ha! as mole would say.) -- I didn’t get to see the Evening quartet either, but they’re making a swing through my neck of the woods in autumn, so I hope to catch them then--maybe twice if I’m lucky. (BTW, that first part was a joke; I say this for the benefit of those who sit in judgment.)
Kooltrane
Jul 09 2018
at 7:57 AM
Bookmark and Share Let’s not get greedy folks.
patsfan
Jul 03 2018
at 10:41 PM
Bookmark and Share You know. .... Pat has produced so many great albums in the past 40 years that I can’t believe that it’s possible to produce anything better. But I’m looking forward to his next album and a whole new dimension .. that he seems to conjure up repeatedly.
hman01
Jun 30 2018
at 10:30 AM
Bookmark and Share I’m hoping for another recording to add to his already massive output. The usual fan wanting even more! I’m anxious for a release with his "Evening with Pat Metheny" band. It’s the only show I had to miss in 35 years. But, I’ll take anything because I know it’s all great!
molesoulsandal
Jun 30 2018
at 9:40 AM
Bookmark and Share am likewise looking forward to a new pat album with the current touring quartet . . . . have not heard one note of their stuff, but can’t wait!
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