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jk Oct 24 2013 at 11:58 PM	i’d love to get input from you all - AND PAT on this topic! http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/08/440hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-good-vibrations-from-natural- 432hz.html
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lithodrone Apr 06 2016 at 8:47 PM	Pure minor, platonic solids and all that. Basically pivot chord modulation and chord melody would be a little constricted or work differently. Of course I’m a drummer so that’s about as far as I can take you, Seriously, check the video toward the bottom of the page. http://www.michaelleehill.net/432-hz-unlocking-the-magnificence-of-the-3-6-and-9-the-key-to-the-universe/
Anjou6253 Jan 08 2014 at 4:12 AM	Yeah I find the arguments in favour of 432 reference pretty precious at best. How tuning everything a third of a semitone flat is supposed to "do" anything (especially in terms of the fabulous "healing" claims) is fairly out there. Further, the Nazi associations to 440 have no basis in fact. Urban myth stuff there. Helmholz’s text on music theory was released about 70 years before the Third Reich and it uses 440 as the reference for the A above middle C. Here’s a link to an amazing article about the arbitrariness of reference pitch. It was actually only just published on Jan 7 2014...http://www.miltonline.com/201 4/01/07/hertz-so-good/
marshall Nov 26 2013 at 6:28 PM	Well, I took a look at those two links, and it’s just more mumbo jumbo. I’m sorry. It’s very easy to deconstruct and point out that everything is cherry-picked to sound mystical, but is mostly factually incorrect. "Music based on 432Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature." - no it’s not. What is "healing energy"? We have a good solid definition of energy--it’s the ability to perform work, and we know of the many forms of energy, including chemical, kinetic, and radiant energy (i.e. EM waves). There is no such thing as "healing energy." Things that heal act on the body through well-known physical mechanisms, and none of them have to do with a particular frequency. Not only that, but the site never describes how 432Hz is a "pure tone of math fundamental to nature." How is it more fundamental than any other frequency? It’s also not any more "pure" than other frequencies. The article mentions many names of composers and musicians who played at 432Hz, but this is not evidence that it is better. In fact, I’m sure I could come up with a much larger list of much more famous composers that used 440Hz. If you look more at the site, it talks about 528Hz having the ability to "repair DNA." This claim is laughable, and the fact that the site peddles such gobbledeegook should tell you how accurate their claims are. The next website points out many places where some math can cajole the number 432 from some natural phenomena. This can be done with nearly every number, and is best exemplified by Harold Camping’s usage of the technique to predict the End of Days, all of his predictions of which have failed. Even if "432" shows up in nature--be it the number of years for something to occur, or the size of some natural piece of matter--this lends absolutely no evidence towards the claim that 432Hz is good. The units of size and distance have nothing to do with the units of Hz, which are defined as 1/second, and depend entirely on the rather arbitrary unit of the second, which itself has undergone substantial modification throughout history.
mountain Nov 26 2013 at 2:07 PM	There is a theory that the change from 432 Hz to 440 Hz was dictated by Nazi propaganda .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EXQifeMXDs. Anyway, here is more interesting noodling about the debate http://omega432.com/432-music/the-importance-of-432hz-music
bluepno Nov 07 2013 at 7:57 AM	Thank you for your input Marshall...I followed similar links but was hoping for a more scientific base...This musical pitch is connected to the numbers used in the construction of a variety of ancient works and sacred places, such as the Great Pyramid of Egypt. It’s also more friendly for your ears. For many people, it is nicer for hearing – softer, brighter and more beautiful than music in 440 Hz....http://attunedvibrations.com/432hz/
marshall Nov 04 2013 at 4:15 PM	Gave this article a quick read. While it’s plausible that 432Hz may sound better (note: this would require controlled studies measuring these effect, of which there are none), this article is chock full of BS mumbo-jumbo about the "healing" nature of 432Hz over 440Hz. The simple quote, "Music based on 432 Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature." should set off everyone’s BS-o-meter immediately. They give no explanation as to why 432Hz is in any way more "fundamental to nature." I couldn’t find a single scientific study or explanation relating anything to 432Hz being specially--that part is completely made up, and all of the language in this article about spirituality is complete bollocks. They don’t site a single source for any of their claims.
bluepno Oct 27 2013 at 2:12 PM	Victorian/new age attributes... http://www.gradfree.com/kevin/some_theory_on_musical_keys.htm
bluepno Oct 27 2013 at 1:47 PM	European orchestras and some jazz musicians were known to sharpen their pitches in order to "brighten" instruments. Here is a coll science video I used this summer... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbH8tg8TuUo
bluepno Oct 27 2013 at 10:27 AM	In the well tempered universe of j s bach each note is a little wrong...but that is ok especially if you are modulating a tritone away...
bluepno Oct 27 2013 at 8:48 AM	I will need to check out Levitins book...historically there are dozens of tunings. Most dont work for a variety of reasons. Some synthesizers like Kurzweil offerred numerous choices but it never really caught on...Wendy Carlos wrote pieces for alternate tunings on her album "Secrets of Synthesis"...as a piano tuner,pianos are tuned down if they have been neglected for years...also if the strings are so brittle or rusted there is a large chance of snapping some of the 300 strings along the way. Pat uses alternate tuning to great effect on his solo albums. It would be difficult to create a large group setting unless you could control every parameter such as the orchestrion. With someone like Keith Jarrett, it would drive him nuts. With perfect pitch he has his piano tuned a number of times within a days sessions.
naut Oct 27 2013 at 5:03 AM	Daniel Levitin explores this in his book "This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession." Since I’m no scientist, I don’t pretend to understand all of the implications, but it was a fascinating read.
bluepno Oct 26 2013 at 3:17 PM	neil young ends up at 432 hz often...I’ve also heard the grateful dead sing there...
bluepno Oct 26 2013 at 3:15 PM	Dare to argue with johann sebastian bach?
jk Oct 26 2013 at 10:13 AM	A=432Hz is a frequency we choose for tuning our instruments and music. If experienced acoustically, it seems to feel better for singing and for acoustic instruments such as pianos. Tunings such as Twelve True Fifths at A=432Hz and C=256Hz sound richer. Unfortunately it Must be experienced to come to that conclusion. Ultimately you have a choice called free will, and we reserve the right to use A=432Hz or C256Hz as Our choice for music enjoyment and enrichment.
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