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shoff Aug 03 2011 at 3:06 PM |
It’s official...my big band now holds mechanical licenses to record two Metheny tunes on our upcoming recording. We’ll be doing Dream of the Return and In Her Family. Yep, I’m excited. |
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rbslscpa Dec 01 2014 at 3:41 AM |
Thanks so much Shoff. I just noticed this on the AG. I am very interested in Christian Jazz artists and enjoy collecting
same. Since I don’t play, my enjoyment comes from listening, kudos to you for the effort and the links. If it is ever for
sale I will scoop it up.
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shoff Nov 23 2014 at 9:36 AM |
Hmm, well, you’ll need to turn each "percent20" value into a space in order to "fix" the URL I posted.
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shoff Nov 20 2014 at 11:09 AM |
Wow, it’s been several years now since I last logged into the forum here, and I see I left some unfinished business. For those who asked, and are interested, here is a link to Dream of the Return -- one of the Metheny tunes we recorded a few years ago. It makes for a nice big-band ballad, and we were pleased overall with the effort. Hope you enjoy it!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51512545/08percent20Dreampercent20Ofpercent20Thepercent20Return.mp3
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DSOP Jan 05 2013 at 1:06 AM |
Thanks HAMBONE! It’s definitely a departure from BSL!
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franksexton Jan 04 2013 at 2:51 PM |
that should be "Smells" not "Smalls"
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franksexton Jan 03 2013 at 1:33 PM |
There is an excellent jazz guitarist in Chicago named John Moulder who is also a Catholic priest.
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franksexton Jan 03 2013 at 12:52 PM |
Dazedcat, have you heard Paul Anka’s cover of "Smalls Like Teen Spirit" ?
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HAMBONE Jan 02 2013 at 12:47 PM |
DSOP, I checked your site out, good stuff. I like your take on Unquity Road
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DSOP Dec 30 2012 at 11:58 AM |
My band (The Trio of Stridence) just released a record which includes covers of two Metheny tunes: Unquity Road and As Falls Wichita...
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yossarian Sep 06 2011 at 11:35 AM |
Hi Shoff, great to hear from you. Lone
Jack works really well as a big band
chart. That three against four section
is a cracker... can’t think of any other
tune in my big band’s pad that has
anything like it. I did the solo section
as an alto duel. I love the half time
piano solo of the original so I kept that
in with backings. Tempo wise the
faster the better! The interesting thing
is that not being like a Thad Jones tune
it’s very playable fast. On the solo it’s
good to think of it as half time feel and
not caught up in trying to play fast.
Anyway just my thoughts... you should
try your own arrangement, your
drummer will thank you! Recently did
When We Were Free, which I reckon is
another good one for big band. Think
you end up appreciating Pat and Lyle’s
inspiration all the more when you deal
with the nuts and bolts of it.
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tomm Sep 05 2011 at 9:41 PM |
Where does your band play in the Dallas area? What’s its name?
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DSOP Sep 03 2011 at 10:42 PM |
http://www.songclearance.com/
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LindaV Sep 03 2011 at 9:37 PM |
shoff, count me in as one who would love
to hear your big band tunes. I love big
band!!!
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shoff Sep 01 2011 at 4:15 PM |
Wow, yossarian, that’s fantastic! I’ve written and/or arranged a handful of big band charts, but none of them were Metheny tunes. You’re right, the Bob Curnow stuff is really well done, and my band enjoys playing it. Metheny’s music conveys to big band pretty well in many cases. I’m very interested in learning more about the tunes you’ve done. Lone Jack is a personal favorite, and I’d love to hear how that would sound in a big-band setting...especially if you play it as fast as Metheny does!
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yossarian Aug 30 2011 at 11:53 AM |
Hey Shoff, have you tried doing your
own arrangements of PM tunes for the
band? very time consuming and late
nights but I recommend it. I’ve done a
version of Extradition, Lone Jack, Unity
Village, Timeline.... ones that Bob
Curnow (his CD of Pat tunes is
knockout) hadn’t done at the time. I
was a beginner when it comes to big
band charts and it was a real challenge
but the results have pleased me and
the band has performed them live here
in London. Haven’t sold them of
course... not looking to profit in any
way. But I’ve found it a good way in to
doing my own tunes for big band. If
only modern big band were more
popular...
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-m Aug 22 2011 at 8:35 AM |
One man’s ceiling is another man’s floor. - Paul Simon.
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hman01 Aug 21 2011 at 7:34 PM |
Dazedcat-I know what you mean about
Bill Shatner.I got a CD by Jack Webb
called "Just the Tracks Mam".
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Dazedcat Aug 21 2011 at 11:56 AM |
By the definition of some here, Coltrane’s "A Love Supreme" would be marginalized as Christian Jazz today. Ah, the enlightened...they never cease to disappoint.
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Bikenjazz Aug 20 2011 at 7:19 PM |
Those who play jazz or other forms sometimes know that the highest form of divinity is the gift that they expound and express. The music played is sometimes closely linked to the transcendance and transformation of the human spirit, and in my opinion, the giving and ultimate expression of the human condition.
I do wish that the question concerning mechanical licensing would have been answered, instead you have used this forum to promote your band.
I promote truthful forms of expression,. when I play and when I write.
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Dazedcat Aug 20 2011 at 12:36 PM |
The soundtrack in hell is William Shatner "singing" pop tunes from his 60’s albums. I’ll even toss in a couple tunes that Leonard Nimoy sung back then too. That’s hell.
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PeeWee Aug 20 2011 at 12:04 PM |
Guilty pleasure ...Michelle
Tumes’ "Healing Waters"
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hman01 Aug 20 2011 at 9:56 AM |
Hey,you guys might appreciate this.I
typed in "christian big band" on itunes to
see what popped up-none other than
Charlie Christian.
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hman01 Aug 20 2011 at 9:51 AM |
Hey Shoff-count me in.I’d love to hear
some of your bands’ music too.
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chetweir Aug 19 2011 at 8:20 PM |
hey Shoff congrats and good luck ....hope you guys take it deep and would really like to hear some cuts from your up-coming record.....please keep us posted.....in hopes of lightening the mood and not offending anyone....the one thing I am absolutely sure of is that Hell has an endless loop of smooth jazz playing.....
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DCTWMT Aug 19 2011 at 10:18 AM |
Shoff, I know we don’t share political views, and I’m not especially religious, but I’m with you 100percent on this. This person is just trying to rile you up. How do we know the PMG doesn’t pray before a gig? And what difference does it make anyway? Jeez.....everyone please lighten up.
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shoff Aug 18 2011 at 3:18 PM |
Against my better judgment, biken, I will respond to your comments. Do we pray before we play? Yes, we do. We pray together as a group every time we rehearse or perform. We pray for each other and we pray for those we play for. We thank God for the gifts he’s given us (musical and otherswise), and we ask him to use the music we play to bless those who hear it. Our band has provided a support system as fellow Christians and musicians through family crises, deaths, broken marriages and terminal illnesses. We have also been able to support each other through good times as well. So, our band ministers internally among its members, as well as to those for whom we perform. Is there anything wrong with that? It’s too bad that your own experience with a ’"christian" based value system’ has apparently somehow left you bitter. I hope you’ll heed your own condemnation of intolerance and allow me and others to believe without projecting your own unhealthy outlook upon us. Isn’t that just wasted energy? I’d love to talk more about mechanical licenses, but somehow I don’t get the idea that’s really your focus here.
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Bikenjazz Aug 18 2011 at 7:50 AM |
Steve Laury is a wonderful player who expounds a certain faith. No band can come close to some of the gospel groups out of LA that rock the stage. Having been raised and indoctrinated in a "christian" based value system myself, I can’t really think of more hypocrasy and lies than many "christians" I know. No tolerance, no caring, and waring over beliefs. The question still hasn’t been answered....does a christian jazz band pray before their set? Forum readers would actually benefit from finding out how to obtain mechanical recording licenses. I am not way out of line, but concepts of eternal damnation or salvation are.
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shoff Aug 16 2011 at 5:42 PM |
HAMBONE, the group you mentioned has similarities to my own band, and we play some of the same tunes featured on their site. Where I live, there are no fewer that six such jazz bands, and I’m pretty sure we’re not even the first to record a Metheny tune!
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HAMBONE Aug 15 2011 at 12:31 PM |
To shoff’s point, there is also a jazz band located in Lancaster Pa called The Jazz Ministers who play upbeat jazzy versions of gospel and religious charts. The are not literal ministers of the faith, but do make you appreciate their take on the music they play, and are great musicians. More power to you, shoff!
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shoff Aug 15 2011 at 7:30 AM |
Thanks, guys. Stay tuned...will see about making the Metheny tunes available for folks to listen to here once they’re ready.
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Tom Rudd Aug 15 2011 at 6:25 AM |
Nice Shoff, I would love to hear some of the bands recordings especially the Metheny tunes, please keep us posted on your project.
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thehague Aug 15 2011 at 1:46 AM |
I’m an atheïst myself, in fact I don’t
think religion is of any help to
mankind. But hey, be my guest.
Biken is way out of line. Shoff is not
harming anyone, so be tolerant
about what he believes, won’t you?
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Dazedcat Aug 14 2011 at 9:13 PM |
Shoff, does your band have a website by any chance? You realize you’ll make heads explode here by mixing Metheny tunes with Christian ones, yes?
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Bikenjazz Aug 14 2011 at 5:40 PM |
Shoff: do you allow atheists, followers of Islam or Buddists in your
"christian jazz band"?, or do the members have to pray for foregiveness in order to obtain eternal salvation?
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shoff Aug 14 2011 at 10:42 AM |
Nice try, Biken...have anything else meaningful to say?
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shoff Aug 14 2011 at 10:04 AM |
Thanks for asking, cat. We feature arrangements of familiar hymns, spirituals and other Christian music in a big-band setting. There are commercially available arrangements of this kind of music written specifically for big band (saxes, trombones, trumpets and rhythm section). Additionally, we have also commissioned several of our own pieces over the years. Since jazz itself is rooted in spirituals, Christian jazz is actually a pretty good fit musically. We also do standards and other music in the big-band genre, and the Curnow arrangements of Metheny’s music are a good fit for our sound.
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Bikenjazz Aug 14 2011 at 9:14 AM |
A "christian" jazz band is a band whose members believe in ancient mythology and that "heaven" is a physical location up in the sky and that "hell" is located at an address somewhere underneath the surface of the earth.
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Dazedcat Aug 13 2011 at 12:23 AM |
Best of luck Shoff. What exactly is Christian big-band jazz? How would you describe this?
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shoff Aug 12 2011 at 1:00 PM |
Thanks, all. The arrangements we’re doing are from the Bob Curnow collection. Curnow pointed us to Metheny’s people for obtaining recording permission to do the tunes. What great writing! @cdub: the band plays standard and Christian big-band jazz in the Dallas area.
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Tom Rudd Aug 10 2011 at 5:39 AM |
My Cd went Aluminum. ;-) If you care to you can listen to my version at tomruddmusic.com
I love George Harrisons version the best.
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chetweir Aug 09 2011 at 6:52 PM |
hey Tom ......love that Dylan tune.....what would have happened if the record went platinum though......?
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Tom Rudd Aug 09 2011 at 10:03 AM |
I don’t know if the laws have changed, but on one of my CD’s I ended up doing a Bob Dylan cover "If Not for You" I had to obtain whats called a
compulsory license to record the tune. I think I remember paying $35 dollars for it.
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-m Aug 06 2011 at 6:51 PM |
That’s very cool shoff, congratulations. Best of luck on the sessions.
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stevee23 Aug 06 2011 at 7:50 AM |
I’d love to hear about the process. If your CD is going to be sold to the public, you need official permission to use Pat’s copyrighted material? And did it cost a lot of money? Who do you write to - Pat, his lawyers, his production/publishing company? And what if they say "no"? In a similar vein, did Pat have to get official permission for all the tunes on "What’s It All About?"
Thanks.
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chetweir Aug 05 2011 at 8:38 AM |
congrats.....pretty cool stuff......whats your band all about?
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