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Tom Rudd
May 11 2011
at 12:50 PM
Went into Borders here in downtown Boston and the knuckleheads mixed all the Jazz and Rock CD’s together. So now you can find McCoy Tyner right next to Type O Negative, Pat Metheny next to Meatloaf and Lee Konitz next to Korn. That was good for a laugh! In retrospect maybe that’s the way it should be. What do you guys think?
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john
May 24 2011
at 2:29 PM
Bookmark and Share I’m old enough to remember stores that had listening booths where you could listen being to albums before buying them (or not as was often the case). Also fond memories of my local Harlequin record shop. Cheers John
HAMBONE
May 24 2011
at 11:38 AM
Bookmark and Share Philly Record Exchange is pretty good also. I’ve stumbled on a couple good ones in Allentown, but that’s a bit of a haul from Philly to just check out some albums. There’s just something about holding the cover and reading the liner notes that can’t be replaced.
DCTWMT
May 24 2011
at 7:17 AM
Bookmark and Share Mountain: downloading music is actually accessing the Cloud too. (Cloud is just a buzzword for getting something from somewhere else, or running your software somewhere other than your machine - in other words, The Next Big Thing, although it’s been there all along) And I miss 3rd St Jazz as well. Have you been to the Princeton Record Exchange? Pretty good place.
mountain
May 23 2011
at 12:30 AM
Bookmark and Share Ah, the death of the music store. My collecion is A-Z, both the physical collection and my electronic library. You would think it would just be easier that way for stores. Placing music into genres makes it difficult for those customers and clerks who are less aware or educated about music. If you know the name, its kinda easy to just look through the alphabet, right? I miss the record shop. 3rd Street Jazz & Rock in Philly and even Tower. Although my wife does not miss me spending hours in the stores searching and discovering. Soon we will not even download the music to our computers, but access our collections from a server in the "cloud". I suppose there is something less harmful to the environment, green, by not having to manufacture a CD/Vinly/Cassette and its case, but I miss the tangible aspect of holdiong the music and reading the liner notes.
Tom Rudd
May 20 2011
at 8:41 AM
Bookmark and Share Before it becamwe the Rat it was called TJ’s, Used to go hear Jon Butcher play there all the time. "Batheads" That’s a good one, never heard that before. Yes and you are right everything used to spill out on the streets back then.
bluepno
May 20 2011
at 8:05 AM
Bookmark and Share I only arrived in Boston in ’77. The Rat was there in ’74...You got me. Wikipedia has two funny articles on the Rat...including regular fights between the "punk" scene and the "batheads"(Red Sox fans from the burbs).Everything spilled out to the sidewalks back then.
Tom Rudd
May 20 2011
at 6:09 AM
Bookmark and Share Or Kens Pub on Boylston St. Here’s one for you, What was the Rat called before it was the Rat.
bluepno
May 19 2011
at 9:41 AM
Bookmark and Share It helped warm those cold winter nights...it wasn’t fair to leave out Michaels Pub on Gainsborough St..
Tom Rudd
May 19 2011
at 5:26 AM
Bookmark and Share Haaa! I know what you mean Bluepno, those 25 cent screwdrivers will get you everytime!
s in Boston
May 18 2011
at 2:43 PM
Bookmark and Share Tom, I remember the Central Square store. The name Cheapo kind of rings a bell but I’m not sure if that was it. There was also In Your Ear, also in Cambridge, I think? ~ ~ ~ Someone mentioned the old music dept. in the Harvard COOP - that was definitely one of the better places around for new records. I was so disappointed when they did away with it. Bought a lot of jazz and classical there. And of course Tower was pretty nice back in the day.
bluepno
May 18 2011
at 1:13 PM
Bookmark and Share Cheapo and Planet were excellent sources.When Zounds closed...Planet opened in Kenmore Sq.Those were the days of The Rathskeller,Poohs Pub, Dantes Inferno and Fathers I-VII. We would try to walk I-VII. We never quite got past II or IV.
Tom Rudd
May 18 2011
at 6:03 AM
Bookmark and Share Used to stop at all these stores on a regular basis. There was also one in Central Square that was good. Was it Cheapo Records?
s in Boston
May 17 2011
at 2:33 PM
Bookmark and Share Bluepno - You’re forgetting Planet Records, which was also in Kenmore. I spent a lot of time at Looney Tunes on Boylston as well. And later at Nuggets.
zargb5
May 17 2011
at 2:13 PM
Bookmark and Share There’s only 2 types of music - good and bad ---the rest is merely indexing.
bluepno
May 16 2011
at 11:14 AM
Bookmark and Share In Boston the best used stores were Zounds (next to Paul’s Mall and the Jazz Workshop), Looney Tunes by Berklee and in Kenmore Square Nuggets.Between the 3 almost anything was available.
Mark X
May 15 2011
at 4:34 PM
Bookmark and Share My favorite record store in the US, Waterloo Records in Austin, mixes up their stock like this. They have separate sections for classical, world, and soundtracks, but everything else is thrown together alphabetically. Which is fine by me. The lines between rock, blues, country, r&b and jazz are pretty fluid. I mean, how would you categorize Ray Charles? Otis Redding? Joni Mitchell? Bill Frisell? Tom Waits? Allen Toussaint? Some of my favorite artists are impossible to pigeonhole, which is part of their appeal.
BobSmith
May 15 2011
at 1:55 PM
Bookmark and Share I have one of those Sansa MP3 players that takes Micro SDHC cards. There was a sale a while ago on the 16GB so I bought it. It sat around for a long time as I was trying to figure out what to put on it. I realized that my CD collection had as its largest amounts of CD’s each: Pat Metheny, Keith Jarrett, Steve Roach, JS Bach, Beatles, Steve Reich and Oregon/Towner. I’ve got most of that transferred to that SD card and there’s still going to be some left over room when I’m done. It’s quite a transition when I put it on shuffle and go from "Another Girl" to Bach Christmas Oratorio then Steve Roach, etc.
hman01
May 14 2011
at 2:31 PM
Bookmark and Share This is an interesting thread.Have any of you ever listened to music of different genres "all mixed up"? Sometimes I click on the "all songs" category of my mp3 player and let it go.It makes for some interesting transitions.When I had XM satellite radio,they had a channel called "Fine Tuning" that played music from different genres,all mixed together.This morning I had a strange experience.Before I woke up,I heard the end of the Faure Requiem in my dreams(In Paradisum).Then there was a smooth transition to "Don’t Do Me Like That" by Tom Petty. When i was fully awake,I realized the latter selection was bumper music to a Saturday morning fishing show on the radio playing next to my bed.Could it have been the fate of musical eclecticism saving me from another episode of sleep apnea?
barley
May 13 2011
at 1:10 PM
Bookmark and Share Nice one Fred! I just looked, I have Beatles, Beethoven, Benson, Blind Faith...Fagen, Faure, Ferry, Fitzgerald.....Sibelius, Simon, Simon, Sinatra. Lots on the floor however!
HAMBONE
May 13 2011
at 11:13 AM
Bookmark and Share Yes Ian, I’ve bought through Jazz Heritage also. They have some older, hard-to-find stuff, but they’re not cheap.
-m
May 13 2011
at 9:28 AM
Bookmark and Share I always thought ’Borders’ were for crossing...
Ian
May 13 2011
at 8:13 AM
Bookmark and Share Over the past couple of years I’ve been buying stuff through the Jazz Heritage Society. It’s a cd club kind of like what Columbia House or BMG used to be where they send you a catalog every month, except that it’s all jazz. I’ve gotten a lot of cool stuff through them and it’s pretty reasonable. Anyone else buy through them?
owen
May 13 2011
at 7:03 AM
Bookmark and Share The record shop is dying. Here in Ireland though, one thing I’ve noticed is prices dropping, so it can be that you can find things cheaper new or 2nd hand to ordering on amazon, ebay etc. But more often than not....naaah
fredsimon
May 13 2011
at 1:14 AM
Bookmark and Share That’s how they’re organized at my house: alphabetically ... Beatles right next to Beethoven.
PeeWee
May 12 2011
at 8:21 PM
Bookmark and Share What DTCWMT said....
bluepno
May 12 2011
at 4:03 PM
Bookmark and Share Newbury Comics has been able to hold their head above water. They do have a select stock of classical and jazz. At any given moment they may have 25 percent of Pats catalogue which is pretty good.
bluepno
May 12 2011
at 4:01 PM
Bookmark and Share I miss the record store...but the new generation does not.
DCTWMT
May 12 2011
at 12:42 PM
Bookmark and Share I don’t even bother going into "record" stores (or departments) anymore. One word: Amazon. You can find almost anything there. And of course there are the places that sell used CDs, rarities, etc.
HAMBONE
May 12 2011
at 12:08 PM
Bookmark and Share They announced the Borders closing in my neck of the woods back in Feb and put everything on sale. I was able to snag a Wayne Shorter, Dexter Gordon and Stan Getz cds for $25. I went back the next week and the only thing left was the dregs. (And I don’t mean The Dregs!)
Tom Rudd
May 12 2011
at 11:41 AM
Bookmark and Share Foper, That’s funny! Yes and things are not what they used to be Bluepno,the Coop was great, Even the Strawberries on Bolyston used to be good back then, and all the great used stores from there up to Mass Av. Got a lot of good jazz on vinyl back then.
mugsy
May 12 2011
at 11:40 AM
Bookmark and Share Personally, I prefer to not find cereal in the vegetable section of our local market. It is all "food" but really different foods. I also would add that stores like Borders (at least in my neck of the woods) never had a huge CD supply anyway. So by mixing the genres together, it really minimizes how much they can carry. BTW - most Borders are closing anyway.
jsjj21
May 12 2011
at 8:30 AM
Bookmark and Share Tom, the Borders here in North Attleboro doesn’t even have music, although they’re supposed to according to the sign out front. There’s a Newbury (sp?) comics store down the street that I haven’t made it into yet, but I hear they’re a good source for music. It seems that the days of going into a music store are behind us...or steadfasty making it’s way there. Very sad!
thehague
May 12 2011
at 12:47 AM
Bookmark and Share In Holland there are almost none cd stores left. Those still there are absolute crap. Indeed no specials, one big mix up, mostly "hit" cd’s. You either buy online or you download if you want our kind of music.
bluepno
May 11 2011
at 8:41 PM
Bookmark and Share Hi Tom, I still miss the Coop in old Harvard Sq...a killer classical section.All the sounds that were fit to press.The used stores are slipping away...I’m wondering if I need to put all the stuff on the cloud...
sunship
May 11 2011
at 7:15 PM
Bookmark and Share There are only two genres of music. Good and Bad.
Dazedcat
May 11 2011
at 7:04 PM
Bookmark and Share The big box store here FYI did the same thing several years ago but changed it all back in a couple of weeks. The sales kid told me that customers were confused. Personally speaking I don’t think it’s a bad thing to do this. Life has a tendency to be segregated, music shouldn’t be I don’t think.
foper
May 11 2011
at 6:55 PM
Bookmark and Share Just as long as through some strange force of osmosis Meatloaf doesn’t start influencing Pat.
wright
May 11 2011
at 5:08 PM
Bookmark and Share Meatloaf? Must have been out of Metallica, lol. It is knuckleheaded on so many levels, but at least you can find jazz in your neck of the woods, albeit with some required patience. I only get "pat who"?
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